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Factory 2nd - Carlyle Plain-toe Oxfords


Item# SF8830S
$395.00 $279.00


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Additional Information



  • Lace-up oxford dress shoe
  • Pairs with almost any formal or relaxed style
  • Classic Fit, fits true to size


  • 360º Bench Welt construction for durability and stability
  • Single oak leather sole with regular heel
  • CustomCork™ insole forms a custom fit
  • Craft

  • Handcrafted in Port Washington, WI of fine imported materials
  • Built on the welted 108 Last
  • Calfskin leather
  • Recraftable
  • Care

    Care Instructions

    STEP 1: Using a damp cloth or sponge, lather our Saddle Soap and apply onto leather to clean and restore its natural oils.

    STEP 2: Moisturize the shoes with our Cream Polish to make them supple and soft, following instructions on the product.

    STEP 3: Condition the shoes with our Speed Polish, protecting them from dirt, rain and snow.

    STEP 4: Take our Heel dressing applicator and apply to the edge of the heel and sole.

    STEP 5: Apply our Leather Lotion as needed for added protection and polish in between cleanings. Use our Horsehair Shine Brush to buff shoes to a desired shine.

    *For camo printed leather, simply rub our Leather Lotion onto print with our Cotton Flannel Polishing Cloth as needed and wipe smudges or dirt away with a damp cloth.

    Classic Fit

    Most people consider a “classic” fit to be a “standard” fit. This fit more closely aligns with the natural shape of your feet.

    U.S. E.U. U.K.
    5 38 4
    5.5 38.5 4.5
    6 39 5.5
    6.5 39.5 6
    7 40 6.5
    7.5 41 7
    8 41.5 7.5
    8.5 42 8
    9 43 8.5
    9.5 43.5 9
    10 44 9.5
    10.5 44.5 10
    11 45 10.5
    11.5 45.5 11
    12 46 11.5
    12.5 47 12
    13 48 12.5
    14 49 13
    15 50 14
    16 50.5 15

    For help getting the perfect fit, we recommend you visit a retail store to get your feet fitted. If you do not have the option to visit one of our stores, you may contact customer service to help you choose the right size.

    Width Available Sizes
    AAAA 8.5-16 Narrow
    AAA 10-12, 13, 14
    AA 10-12, 13, 14
    A 9-12, 13, 14
    B 8-12, 13, 14, 15
    C 8-12, 13, 14, 15
    D 6-13, 14, 15, 16 Medium
    E 6-12, 13, 14
    EE 6-12, 13
    EEE 7-12, 13, 14 Wide
    Ask & Answer
    Factory 2nd - Carlyle Plain-toe Oxfords is rated 4.5 out of 5 by 12.
    Rated 5 out of 5 by from High quality, solid service. Very comfortable, second pair of AE shoes I have. Broke in fast and have a very nice slight marbling to the leather on the heap (which I really enjoy). Bottom line, very well built, long lasting, high quality dress shoes. I selfishly love that AE is out of WI (my birth state) and you can’t beat the factory seconds deals for this quality level.
    Date published: 2020-01-11
    Rated 5 out of 5 by from Great shoes Great shoes. It seams all the AE runs a whole size bigger
    Date published: 2019-12-23
    Rated 5 out of 5 by from 1st time Allen Edmonds buyer I was originally hesitant to pay $400 for a brand I have never tried before. So I decided to try a pit of 2nd hand Carlyle, I could not be more happier with my decision. Great looking shoes leather already mostly broken in, what more can you ask for. I will definitely be buying another pair, I just have to decide what pair to buy.
    Date published: 2019-12-22
    Rated 1 out of 5 by from Factory 2nds can be a real miss. I have bought two Allen Edmonds factory seconds before and the results were great. I guess I should have tried wearing the shoes inside before going outside, so I wouldn't have voided the ability to return. That said, there was a very rough raised patch inside the left shoe where the lining is sewed on to the outer shoe and it the rubbed the skin right off my foot a bit below the ankle. I just assumed the shoe would be okay, being such a devoted and happy customer. My foot still hurts two weeks later and am not sure I will ever be able to wear the shoes. I cannot return them since I wore them outside. Be careful when buying factory 2nds.
    Date published: 2019-11-26
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    What is a factory 2nd?

    Asked by: Leon
    Factory Second shoes are shoes that are aesthetically damaged during the manufacturing process. -AE Consumer Care Dept.
    Answered by: Anonymous
    Date published: 2020-01-08

    Can I put orthotic inserts in these shoes.

    Asked by: Anonymous
    The Carlyle was not designed with an orthotic fit in mind and therefore it does not feature removable inserts to accommodate orthotics. However, if the shoe is fit large enough, almost any of our shoes can be worn with the inserts. Keep in mind, orthotics change the way a shoe fits, so it is vitally important to visit a master fitter at one of our retail stores to get a proper fit with an orthotic. Please feel free to contact us with any additional questions.
    Answered by: CUSTOMER SERVICE
    Date published: 2015-06-30

    Is there any way to find out where the imperfection is located on the shoes before purchasing.

    Asked by: Gym Chief
    I have never seen a place on website to find detail on the imperfections. That being said, I have purchased over 5 pairs of seconds and have never been able to find an imperfection. My suggestion is to roll the dice based on the savings you will enjoy.
    Answered by: Urban Texan
    Date published: 2018-11-04

    does this style show fit the same as the park avenue?

    Asked by: Anonymous
    Mine fit almost as well. I wear a 10 1/2 D and these seem to fit just a little more narrow than the park avenue. Not so much as to be a problem- I own two pair of each
    Answered by: Urban Texan
    Date published: 2018-11-04
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